Helping People Achieve Their Dreams w/ Chris Adams

In this episode of Cryptonews Podcast, host Matt Zahab interviews Chris Adams, CEO of Dreamr. They discuss the business of Dreamr, ICO's, meditation, charitable crypto, and much more.

Episode timestamps:

0:00 Intro 
0:46 Dreamr’s mission and goal 
7:51 Meditation best practices 
13:59 Dreamr and the $DMR token 
19:02 How to create a cryptocurrency / Initial Coin Offering (ICO) 24:27 Why they chose Ethereum 
28:56 Poker and sports betting 
31:26 Crypto in Las Vegas 
32:22 Partnering with Delchain 
34:04 Charitable crypto 
39:35 Mac Miller 
41:26 Rapid fire questions 
44:12 Outro

The episode premiered on June 9, 2021.

Episode transcript:

Matt Zahab: 0:08

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm very pleased to have today's guest on the show. This gentleman is a serial entrepreneur with an unshakable belief in the limitless potential of the human spirit. He's the co founder and CEO of Dreamr, a technology based platform with the mission of making the pursuit of our biggest dreams and aspirations more practical. This fella is also the host of the Dreamr podcast, and is releasing a new cryptocurrency called $DMR token. I'm very pleased to welcome to the crypto news podcast, Chris Adams. Chris, welcome to the show, my friend.

Chris Adams:

 0:43

Hey, what's up, man, thank you for having me, man. Really excited to be here.

Matt Zahab:

 0:46

Very excited to have you on board as well. Now you have one of the most interesting, unique and coolest sort of paths and intro into the cryptocurrency and I want to get into that. But before we do, Dreamr, the name is pretty straightforward. For those who do not know it is spelled Dreamr without the last E in, there incredible company super cool stuff, one of the few that actually piggyback on what they mean to do and their mission statement. Let's start by telling our folks a little bit more about Dreamr and what you guys are about there.

Chris Adams:

 1:22

Yeah, absolutely. And thank you for that. Dreamr has been really a labor of love. Over the last like, five, six years, we've been working on this project a long time. And it really stems from as you said, in the intro, a belief, a firm belief in the limitless potential of the human spirit. I think human beings are capable of so much, you know, some of us prove that all the time, you know, out there achieving the impossible. But I think that that potential is really you know, lying dormant within everyone. And so that's really the premise of it is we believe in anyone's ability to do anything, if they're passionate about it and if they're putting their time, attention and energy towards it. So we wanted to create a space, a platform on the internet, where people could declare their dreams, and start, you know, practically moving forward down that path. So it starts with community, you know, which is one of the reasons why I love crypto so much is, you know, projects are really community based daos can't exist without a really engaged community. Right. So communities, the forefront really of the success of any dream. So that's why the Dreamr app right now, if you download it, it looks a lot like a social network, you declare your dream and you start making new connections that are, you know, like minded have similar interests, you know, they may discover you, you may discover new people using our feature dream Connect, you know, got a messenger in there, obviously, and then encrypted. And then you can start earning our platform token, the $DMR token in our rewards program. So that's the foundation of it. And then we're also building a bunch of financial tools that leverage the blockchain to help people overcome the you know, the money roadblocks in the dream. So crowdfunding, a peer to peer marketplace where you can list your skill as a service. So you know, gig economy stuff, but truly peer to peer where people are, you know, through a nice easy app interface, setting smart contracts with each other and holding funds in escrow while work gets done. And so I'm a big believer in blockchain. And you know, once we kind of realized that we needed to build financial tools, also, that it was more than just connections and relationships. That's when we started entering the blockchain space. And, you know, figuring out how we're going to do this living on the cool stuff that's going on here. So that's a little bit about the demo platform, you'll see it's a lot. But you know, that's the tech.

Matt Zahab:

 3:48

That's awesome. Lots to unpack there. Let's go back to square uno. What made you think of this app, think this programs platform? What was the aha moment or the light bulb? When did that light bulb go off in your head and your co founders heads or you guys were like, so many people have dreams. Everyone has a dream or dreams, plural, but it is a literal nightmare, the opposite of a dream, getting the ball rolling and making shit happen. Tell me about that aha moment.

Chris Adams:

 4:17

Right. So at first, it was that glaring problem, right? It was, actually so the aha moment came in meditation for me. I was actually trying to improve my poker game. At the time, I was young 22 I think, and a good friend of mine recommended that I start meditating. So I'm doing that, you know, not necessarily like a super spiritual function, but just like, you know, in a frame of really trying to improve my mindset, improve my state of you know, mental clarity, trying to tap into my intuition, more things like that. And I was lucky enough man where just like a month into meditation I had a, you know, it's weird, but it's a whole experience kind of within yourself because like, I'm sitting on my couch with my eyes closed, right. But all of a sudden, it just like this sensation in my heart like, exploded. And there's not really words for it. But I knew in that moment, I've always been a big dreamer. But I knew in that moment that I could do literally anything, that like the potential within me would allow me to do whatever I wanted to do. And I simultaneously knew that I wasn't special that that was something that exists within every human being. So from then on is like the aha moment of like, okay, well, society is not really set up like this, right? If I like, honor this as a truth, it's not like the world, when as I'm looking at it is not really set up to, you know, encourage people to go try new big bold ideas, it's really set up to try to get you to take proven paths and kind of do. So that was the first thing, like really thinking about that. And at first, it seems like a problem that was unsolvable. And then I was on like Facebook one day, I think this was like, during a presidential election or something like 2012. And it was just like, so negative. And so like, I just didn't feel good after using it for 45 minutes, or however long I was stuck, like in that infinite scroll, you know, and then it kind of dawned on me this, like, you know, we can leverage this same thing, for the opposite for like feeling inspired for, you know, making progress towards my goals and things like that. So the rudimentary idea came there of just like a website that connected people around their goals. And then it really kind of became to what it is now where it's like, you know, we're trying to basically build the entire vertical of dream pursuit and achievement. And you know, the thing is, is that we've, the more and more we've looked into it, we realize that the technology is there, we're just not necessarily leveraging it for this purpose. So it's just kind of putting those things into an ecosystem, making them easy to use and leverage your community throughout the entire process of funding, launching, you know, whatever the dream is, and then it was a, you know, a dream can be anything. So we're also trying to solve a problem that has 1000 different shapes, right. So, you know, we're just gonna be steady, evolving, man. We know those financial roadblocks are huge. We're building solutions for that. And then just we're listening to our users. As you know, our goal is just to keep building tools that leverage, you know, the technology and the mobile connection we have, you know, with anyone around the globe at this point, to make this thing easier. You know, I also want like pursuing my dream to be a normal path in life. And like, if we can do that, then, you know, we've achieved our goal.

Matt Zahab:

 7:51

Obviously, I can't tell you how much I love that. I wish this was around when I was, you know, graduating high school, graduating uni, I'm sure many people do. One thing you touched on was, you know, having that technology to make this

Chris Adams:

 8:03

Awesome, man. So that's incredible. I've, like happen. That is what crypto and blockchain is for. And that is, of course, the bread and butter of the show. And we're gonna get into that in a couple moments. But I want to go back to your meditation. Me personally, I meditate as well, I've been terrible at it over the last couple of weeks, probably even months. Just been so darn busy. Not that that's an excuse. It's just once you get in a routine of waking up checking your yourself tried many different forms of meditation over the phone, seeing the you know, dozens of emails from Europe and boom, you get started in Rome, no morning walks, no morning meditation, you get into a rough groove. Now, I'm not in a ro gh groove, still in a good gro ve, you know, still going to he iron jungle, getting the umps in, life is good, no compla nts. But meditation. When I was oing it, I was doing a it of tm meditation. I also used a couple apps when I first st years. And now I've kind of honed in on something that's rted and then I listened to nav ll, and heard the whole, like, let thoughts come to your mind. And just you know, you don't nee to try to erase them from your ind actually sit on them and, and ask yourself the big questi ns, the whys, why am I thin ing about this? I love if you c uld tell me a little bit about our meditative process. And you now what type to use? How long are you there for and what's the end goal, or just each goal e ery time you medit pretty simple and straightforward. You know, I've tried the guided stuff. I think anything that's like 45 minutes to an hour is like way too long. I keep it like 15 to 20 minutes. And these days, it's just like, it's white noise for me. My process is more like let thoughts go as they come. So I'm trying to get to a place of no thought to where I know like, I'm not thinking about random stuff. So it's like calming those thoughts down. And then once I'm at that point, though, and I can feel it once I'm in there, then I'll let thoughts come because sometimes there's like this weird thing that happens, and I'm sure you can relate to this too, where it's like your brain goes from being a transmitter to a receiver. And it's like, instead of, you know, just having this like thought clutter, which is what we all usually have going on, it's like, I have a state of clarity and then there's thoughts that come that are almost like, you know, not from me, or inspired, like, received, right, and then I'll definitely spend time like contemplating that a little bit. And then sometimes that happens, sometimes it doesn't happen, I don't really set a goal, I just, you know, my first rule of thumb is like that first hour of the day, don't look at the phone, you know, because there's, you know, it puts you immediately in a reactive state of mind, because you're looking at something and then responding to it versus a more creative state of mind where, you know, you're the source of your thoughts versus being reactionary. So like, I kind of set aside that first hour, and then I give them a meditation in, you know, 15 minutes within there, the rest of it is like, reading or something or walk.

Matt Zahab:

 11:08

First hour of the day is Chris time. Tell me about the process? Do you wake up, glass of cold waters, you know, sit down, cross the legs, like tell me more about the details of the meditative process and just sort of easing into the morning.

Chris Adams:

 11:20

Yeah, I mean, it's, I definitely take the morning slow, like I said, so I don't look at the messages and stuff, sometimes something will catch me like I'll see it. I'll keep the phone on, do not disturb. And I usually throw something in the headphones right away, whether that's like an audio book, some music, that's like the energy music where it's like calm. I wish I was better about drinking a bunch of water, but you know, I throw in the coffee Keurig. As I'm kind of sitting there, like, I'll, a lot of times I'll break out the journal just kind of, you know, write some thoughts as they come to mind, my goals for the day. And then as I'm starting to get that itch to, like, start checking the cell phone and things like that I'll make sure I did meditation first. And that's really a, you know, it's meditation, there's no kind of short term goal with it. I would say if there's a goal, it would just be to do it consistently. And then, you know, you'll find that like, as you do it consistently the days you don't do it, you'll still kind of see what the difference is, but for me, it just helps me be in a place that's like more solid footing. You know, I can deal with stuff better as it comes, things don't throw me off my day, you know, as when I'm not meditating, things like that. But this is like just overtime where I've really noticed like the nuances of doing and not doing it, you know, different types, but it's something that has changed my life. For sure.

Matt Zahab:

 12:45

You gotta get your reps and I think meditation. Now mind you, it's true with anything else in life, without getting your reps and it's so tough to get over that that hurdle. And then, you know, one day like you do it, I don't know, three weeks, four weeks, five weeks, and on that one morning, you wake up and you're like, whoa, clarity, like, I'm in control now. It's almost like anything else, like it's just that aha moment or that switch will flip. How long did it take you until that happened?

Chris Adams:

 13:08

So that was that experience that I was kind of talking with you about. Like a profound one, like a month? And I know, you know, I'm talking to many people, sometimes that takes years sometimes, but yeah, to have almost like a psychedelic experience just sitting on your couch with your eyes closed is a trip. And then that really kind of opened your mind to the fact that there really is a whole internal world going on, of consciousness that we're not really talking about as far as you know, this with each other. So, but I'm excited for that. I think science is starting to get there, which is really gonna open the conversation, quantum physics and things like that are starting to get to the point where they have to acknowledge that consciousness and thought plays a role in what's going on.

Matt Zahab:

 13:59

It's really deep. Chris Adams getting deep on the crypto news pod. That's what we like to see. Let's go back to Dreamr now. Quite, you know, this is probably a very, there's no such thing as a dumb question. But Dreamr the name, of course, it makes sense. Why take out the E?

Chris Adams:

 14:18

You know, it's like true tech platform style. And with that hard R, but, you know, once we actually thought of the name and looked at it, we were very surprised that it was available in that spelling. So, you know, that spelling also was available to start trademarking and doing things like that.

Matt Zahab:

 14:41

So and that was it? Okay, and the rest was history. So, I have so many questions about Dreamr, this is going to be awesome. The Dreamr ecosystem is again, the whole goal is to build innovative products and produce top quality content around the core premises of psychology of goal achievement, unity over separation, and leveraging technology to make practical the pursuit of one's dreams. That is a ballsy goal. And you guys have already made waves and have done a really great job in getting the ball rolling. Now, there's so many different components and cogs to the actual Dreamr machine, you have the Dreamr ecosystem, you have $DMR token, which is coming out, you have the dream machine Tour, which leverages the ops community to produce real world events and media, you have the dream machine Foundation, which is the philanthropic arm, you have so many different aspects of it. If someone were to ask you, Chris, tell me about Dreamr and you have 30 seconds on the elevator to get your point across, give it to me straight up.

Chris Adams:

 15:43

Um, you know, Dreamr is a technology company that's building, you know, networking and financial tools that make it more practical for people to pursue their dreams. And we're fortunate enough that that technology idea has grown into a movement with physical aspects like tours, Dreamr labs, you know, in partnership with the Y, and, you know, a whole philanthropic arm where we really focus on getting back to both the Dreamr community, you know, the world and, you know, communities affected by just ongoing stuff like COVID, you know, different things like that. So, that's my elevator and, you know, hopefully you'd want to stay on top to hear more

Matt Zahab:

 16:30

Love that makes sense. Now the next question in that elevator pitch, let's say that you got stuck on that elevator, you had a two minute, you know, stuck on floor 10. And someone asked you, you have incorporated crypto into the Dreamr ecosystem? How have you done that?

Chris Adams:

 16:45

So we are incorporating crypto because we're building our financial tools on the blockchain. And I'm a big believer in crypto. So I think, you know, I think blockchain is really a foundational technology of what just the future world economy is going to be built on. So we know when we wanted to build financial tools, we knew we had to do it on the blockchain. And we're also building you know, a very consumer centric and consumer focused product. So I really think Dreamr has an opportunity to help with the mass adoption of crypto by making it not necessarily a crypto app right? So you know, and we personally are launching a token, because we want to really give a layer of interaction with our community that hasn't existed before, and really give them a significant say so in the platform, and where we go with it from here. So our Technology Roadmap, our privacy policy, our terms of service, so you know, what we do with user data, all of that is going to go into control of the community, and will be, you know, any changes to those things will be voted on by token holders. So, you know, with the $DMR token, we're introducing $DMR governance, you know, and then as we continue to kind of build different tools and services, we continue to find ways to create value for those token holders. And so those are, you know, if they're being given out to our most active users, like we really want our community to engage in and benefit from the growth of the platform. And it's really just the truth, you know, these type of networks, social networks, especially, are valuable, for one reason only, and that's the people that use them. So, you know, it's, you know, Facebook's worth $500 billion, because we all spend an hour on and every day, this is the facts, right. So we, we wanted to include our community in that and then also really make it so it's the community's platform. You know, we're not going to ever change the privacy policy and say, by continuing to use this, you know, you agree to this new shit that we're going to do with your data like that's not our style. We're building something for the people. And so the $DMR token really allows it to be that way.

Matt Zahab:

 19:02

Well, speaking of Facebook, having that bigger string hold on the market, you and the team are growing quickly, and you have over 20,000 dreamers, and they spend on average of eight minutes per day in the app that is not too shabby. And that is definitely something to write home about. And I believe I pulled that data from months back as well. It's probably grown since then. $DMR token I know that's popping off soon. I know you can't tell me a whole lot about that. A lot of stuff on the back burner. I'm totally fine with that. I'm very, very curious and I know our listeners are as well. How do you create a token? Like walk me through the process of being at the conference table or on zoom with your founders and your mates and saying okay, so I'm gonna create a token, what is step two, step three, all the way out to release? Like how big of a Gong Show is that, walk me through that process?

Chris Adams:

 19:53

For us, man, this has been a multi year process, like this is not something that we thought of yesterday. So we're a company that originated in the United States, we now have a, well, at least, you know, with me, it did my co founder, she's in India. So we've been, you know, in both spots since inception. But you know, I registered the company in the United States in Nevada. And the first thing I did, honestly, when I decided we want to do a token was go hire a securities attorney. Because we're in the United States, like, it's such an unclear environment to try to do that in. So like, the first phase of it was just like, understanding all the obstacles to try to do a token from where we were at. You know, eventually, we decided to, you know, incorporate offshore, at least for our token issuing entity, whereas, where we have Dreamr labs now. And we partnered with Dell chain, to really help us bring our token to market. So you know, that's more towards the end of the process. So when you decide to do the first thing you need to ask is why, like, don't arbitrarily create a token, you know? It's like, do we really need one? Why do we need one? You know, crypto is hot right now so people might be kind of putting the cart before the horse and saying, Hey, we just need to build a token and we'll figure out its use case later. Like that, you know, it might work right now for the next couple months, but I promise you, that's not gonna fly, you know, in the long term in crypto. So it's, you know, we really just put some thought into it first, and like, okay, you know, that's a whole different layer of technology that hasn't existed, how can we use that to add value to our users? You know, so it's like, it's answering that question. If you're a business, you know, b2b product, and it's how can we leverage a token to add value to our customers and our businesses? You know, a solid use case and utility for the token is the first thing, you know, then the next thing is deciding on like a blockchain where you want to launch that on, you know, are you building your own? you're launching our theory, um, do you want to launch it on Tron? You know, for whatever reason, like, those are the next decisions. And then it's really like, okay, once you've got that figured out, in our, you know, way of going about it, we decided we wanted to ship a product first before launching a token, which is not the typical way in crypto, but I think that's definitely a decision that a lot of businesses need to make moving forward before they decide to integrate a token or not like

Matt Zahab:

 22:37

Then it has more utility.

Chris Adams:

 22:39

Yeah, cuz i think the days of like, selling a crypto and then building something are going to be like soon over.

Matt Zahab:

 22:47

Yes.

Chris Adams:

 22:48

You know, I thank DeFi for changing that. But you know, even on like consumer products, like Dreamr, I think any founders listening to this, you know, really consider shipping your product first, and then the token. And then it's just doing it. Then it's coding it getting it audited and working on an exchange? Yeah, tokenomics. That's part of your use case. But tokenomics like you know, you got to get lawyers and economists and like, if you're gonna do this right and really build a token that has a use case, then you got to do the math and like, really sit and figure out like, okay, what do we expect the volume to be on this thing? Like, what's the release schedule? How much are we giving away for the community or air drops? How much are we keep for the team, like, all those decisions need to be made, and they really need to be a group discussion that involves all your stakeholders. And, you know, we're in that process right now. So it's exciting, it's fun, it's also a lot of work and, you know, if you are looking to build a long lasting business, going through all the regulatory stuff, and understanding that landscape is a big part of it as well, which is super boring, you probably want to, you know, get into securities laws and stuff on this podcast, but having a thorough understanding of those things, and what you're doing, I think is essential, which it's also tough to stay on top of, because this industry completely changes like every six months.

Matt Zahab:

 24:27

So $DMR token is being launched on the Ethereum blockchain, you are going the traditional ERC 20 route, which is the creme de la creme of you know, tokens, I guess. But then again, you have the gas fees, which is the big issue but with ERC 20 you have probably the largest cross platform ability and just strict utility standpoint. You have the sure shot into the DeFi industry, which is huge, and I know that's something that you and the team are very keen on. But I'm curious, if I am wrong and if I'm correct please do, the floor is yours. But why did you choose to go the Ethereum route?

Chris Adams:

 25:10

No, you are correct. Outside of the fact that I'm just like it an Ethereum, you know, I think a lot of people are just because how could you not like...Ethereum has this hands down, like the best development community, and most active development community, period. So the issues with it right now, around gas fees, things like that, like they will be solved eventually. So, you know, I think about like more, I don't think a short term solution is like, move your project over to like salada, just yet. If Ethereum takes like, two more years, or something, I get it. But there's also layer two solutions like Matic that are, you know, creating space for platforms to kind of move their projects over there. Then you've also got the Binance smart chain, I will admit, we're contemplating putting, you know, a portion of our token supply over there. Just because, you know, there's so much action

Matt Zahab:

 26:12

Very popular now.

Chris Adams:

 26:14

Yeah, and I get it, because they've made it easy to use, like trust wallet, you know, people can get on there. But the really interesting thing that I think you'll like is, you know, crowdfunding is going to be our next big tool outside of like really building out the rest of the social media features and our digital wallet, of course, but once we have crowdfunding, crowdfunding is going to be on our own layer two solution that we're building on top of Ethereum. And we are looking at different ways to, you know, just have an easy bridge for, you know, $ETH to get onto there for our token to get on and off. And, you know, basically be able to do everything we want to do on Ethereum, but with no gas fees. So, you know, I think that is, blockchain interoperability is a huge thing. I don't know how far away we are from that. So my bet is on Ethereum to be the biggest and the best and the most stable. And I haven't found a good reason to bet against that just yet. So I think long term, you know?

Matt Zahab:

 27:28

100% and once gas fees are fixed, there's no close second, like it's.

Chris Adams:

 27:34

And we already know that proof of stake is going to fix that. So there's just like, we just need a short term solution

Matt Zahab:

 27:40

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Chris Adams:

 29:10

Yes and sports betting. But yeah, funny enough poker was actually like a really big part of my life for like four or five years from I would say ages like 18 to 23 I made a good portion of all of my income playing poker. And so I'm so excited for poker on the blockchain, like you know, I think a big part of the reason I stopped playing poker was because it was no longer available to play on the internet, legally. So yeah, when I first got into it, it was like the pokerstars Full Tilt days you know, 10 table and cash games on there. And it was a it was a great time. So I'm very excited for poker on the blockchain because you know, I don't know for anybody that was around playing internet poker back then. Like, you know, the ultimate bet scandal is stuff where like there was cheaters who could see your whole cards or something like that. Blockchain can really prevent that from happening again and make online poker safe, which hopefully means makes it legal. But I'm a big fan of online poker 100% skill game, so I'm excited to see the resurgence of them to blockchain.

Matt Zahab:

 30:20

What's your favorite Texas Hold'em hand in the hole?

Chris Adams:

 30:23

Oh, man, I don't have a favorite hand, Oh, in the hole. See, you ask smart. I was just like, my favorite position is just to play, you know? In the hole, man, um, aces always.

Matt Zahab:

 30:40

Aces, yeah? I feel like you get unlucky. I feel like when I rock aces, like, you know, couple twos, sevens and jacks pop up.

Chris Adams:

 30:50

But that's why the whole makes it interesting. Because, you know, like, you get into weird spots if you know, just call and then nobody raises but, you know, there's so many fun different things you could do in that spot that... Yeah, aces because you could like do a small raise, you could just call and re-raise somebody. There's so many things you can do to make it look like you're just being like, aggressive for no reason, and then actually have aces. So aces for sure.

Matt Zahab:

 31:23

Aces. Are you still in Vegas right now?

Chris Adams:

 31:25

I am.

Matt Zahab:

 31:26

How is I know COVID is failing, especially in Vegas and regular life is resuming again. But what's the crypto scene like in Vegas?

Chris Adams:

 31:35

The crypto scene? Um, I mean, it's not bad. It's like, I don't know. I'm not a part of unfortunately, any like crypto communities in Vegas. You know, it's like me and my homies might be the crypto scene.

Matt Zahab:

 31:53

Starting off trailblazing.

Chris Adams:

 31:55

Yeah, but I mean, I've met, you know, one of my dearest friends in life at this point, his name is Andrew in the crypto scene and like a blockchain meetup in 2017. But you know, after that kind of crash, like the end of that year, early 2018, I think whatever crypto scene we did have here, it's kind of fading out. You know, I haven't really seen a resurgence of it. But I also, you know, I'm in my house working all the time.

Matt Zahab:

 32:22

So of course, gotta take Dreamr to the moon, that next level. Going back to Dreamr here, you guys partnered with one of the most famous blockchain advisory firms in del chain, they have a very prominent and successful track record. And I know they're helping you bring your blockchain focused products including the $DMR token to market. What's it been like working with those guys?

Chris Adams:

 32:47

Man, del chain has been incredible. They are, just their industry knowledge is like so deep for how young this industry is. And they're just like, they're so low key like they work with a number of big name projects that you just haven't heard about in the news. But you know, they're not just working with these guys are like running nodes for them and, you know, helping, you know, interface, their wallet infrastructure with exchanges and stuff like like all this backend stuff. They have, like they have a whole software team, you know, that is incredibly resourceful. And, you know, I'm really looking forward to you know, the Dreamr token is the first one. They're helping us get that listed on a tier one exchange. They've been involved in our tokenomics and buttoning up all that stuff and making sure it's solid. But you know, they're a resource that I can use to launch further DeFi products in the future, you know, to get introduced to like big block chains that we may want to partner with things like that. So far they've been invaluable and I plan on keeping my relationship with DelChain close for a long time because it's been really good 100%

Matt Zahab:

 34:04

Another incredible thing that you guys have done is the charitable contributions. I know you received over a million USD in charitable contributions to the dream machine foundation tour. And you've done tons of work you've given away 1000s of Hasbro toys shout out Hasbro incredible sponsorship there. You've given away 1000s of toys and games to families in need across the nation during the 2020 holiday season. Talk to me about getting this initiative started. Was this something right from the get go where you were you guys were like hey, for every you know bit of success we get and we receive we're going to share that back out the community. How did that go about coming to fruition?

Chris Adams:

 34:47

Man, it's something that from the beginning we always knew would be a part of it. You know, I think giving is such a powerful form of expression for a lot of reasons. But one of the bigger reasons, you know, for yourself when you give is you're showing yourself that you have, whatever it is you're giving. So whether that's money, whether that's time, whether, you know, you're showing yourself that you're abundant in anything so, you know, that also opens the pathway for receiving, right, like, giving and receiving is a balance. So I've always kind of thought about giving in terms of in relation to business as a practical way to grow a company. So all of this wasn't an original plan of like, oh, we're gonna have this tour and saw this, like, that's just that's getting lucky. You know, I'm fortunate that my partner, Charlie rocket, shout out to Charlie did a dream machine tour, you know, on his own in 2018, where he biked across the country, but like, we always knew we'd have that foundation arm. And when COVID hit, he hit me up and was like, Hey, man, I want to do the dream machine tour again, it's time to get out there and help people. And I was super down. So we got that done and we kicked that off, I think in like may, officially kicked it off in July. And just like, you know, credit to Charlie and the tour team, they just were on the road for like 10 months, really just being in communities being a service, no giving back finding those powerful stories, for you know, those Hasbro gift bags, and, you know, the different things that you want to do and all the different brands that wanted to help, which was awesome. And that was, it was something, like launching during COVID is a weird thing too. So that whole vehicle of the tour, you know, allowed us to get out there and help but also market the app. So you know, tying that giving in with our storytelling and our marketing has been just a huge success. so far. Dream machine tour two, three is coming again in September. So that's something we're going to continue to do. You know, Charlie's really, you know, finding his groove on the givebacks and the content, like, his Tiktok is going crazy went from like, you know, 50,000 to 1.5 million over the last three, four months. And so the content is getting updated. So we got a snapchat show for Dream machin tour content that is doing really well. So you know, it's cool, man, because it's like, six years of hard work. But now like we know what to do. Now that we're here, like, we've been planning to be here for so long, that we know exactly what to do with it. So

Matt Zahab:

 37:53

Sorry to interrupt you there. What's the secret sauce for blowing up? Again, I've seen your content, it's incredible content. And you're giving back the people, everyone likes a good story as well. A good narrative and you and the team have definitely hammered that. But any secret sauces any ingredients you can give away to our listeners in regards to really blowing up on socials.

Chris Adams:

 38:13

So I can give you the recipe, I can't give you the sauce, you know, that's what we got a hold. But it's really, authenticity is the sauce, you know, but the method behind that I think you really see is like format, you know, you can always study what people do. And if you were to go look at Charlie's tik tok, right now, you'll see that there's three or four different like formats that he's using, and then continually iterates and 1000s 1000s. So coming up with a format for your content, whether that's like, a show format, like we have with this podcast, or the two minute version of it, you know, for Instagram. And then, you know, like, once you find a format that like gets engagement, it's like tweaking that, you know? And that's really like a trial and error. You'll see like the people who kind of gain traction quick, it's because they're posting four or five times a day, and actually taking that feedback and that you know, what they're getting from their audience and making changes, you know, and optimizing. So, it's the same way you would approach a technology product, you know. If your users like it, and they give me feedback, you tweak it, iterate it, until you really see that increase in traction that you're looking for.

Matt Zahab:

 39:35

So you got the sauce. Chris, this is an incredible. A couple quick questions before we wrap up. Folks, Chris has an incredible mac miller poster or I guess piece of artwork behind him. And it is Mac Miller. I love life. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I personally love Mac. I grew up with Mac. He fired me up in the mornings he cooled me down at night. He's one of the goats in my books. Why do you love Mac so much?

Chris Adams:

 40:00

Man, just just one of the most underrated like lyricists period. Um, you know, even if like you go back to listen like early mac miller like he was good back then. One thing I love about Mac Miller is that Jay Z even gave him like, you know, some credit for his flow, you know, just that he was nice and he like printed that tweet and like hung it on his wall. Like, you know, he was somebody that's real, like, I tend to gravitate to artists that really like tell their story and are authentic and that's something that Mac always did. You know, whether it was like divine feminine or even like the most recent album like right before he passed, you know, just talking about his own struggles with the self care and all that like, I don't know, his whole discography. If you haven't listened to Mac Miller I recommend just going through the whole thing because somebody we definitely lost way too early. Just a real talent.

Matt Zahab:

 41:01

So many different flows and beat styles you name it. Yeah, I remember you know playing hockey we'd listen to him before games to get fired up, we listened to his other songs after games to sort of cool down and celebrate like you know, break up with an ex girlfriend when you're in junior high or high school he's got a track for that, you get a track for everything. He was one of my favorites. This is more of a personal question and you can totally deflect this and tell me to fly kite if you'd like but what's in your crypto bag? Got any goods for the folks at home?

Chris Adams:

 41:37

Yeah, I got a couple. I mean, the majority of my bag is in $ETH. So just to make that clear, like I think $ETH is still that is to the moon. And then I like a lot of DeFi plays. I'll give you one I think they just listed on Coinbase so it's not too much of a secret but $CTSI is the token, I really liked that project. They're kind of building like an AWS for Ethereum and then Matic as well. Matic is you probably know it now. But it's like they rebranded as polygon and what they're doing on Ethereum is huge, but that's not really a sleeper anymore, but it was like I guess two months ago. Actually, hold on let me

Matt Zahab:

 42:29

Check out the bag. I got another one for you. Who do you think Satoshi is?

Chris Adams:

 42:36

Man? That's it. That's all I'm going to reveal from the bag $ctsi. Satoshi? I think Satoshi is aliens bro. I'm just gonna be honest. The only thing that makes sense is like alien saw the path we were headed down and like just gave us a gift and like the ability to take control of our money.

Matt Zahab:

 43:06

I like that. One of the questions that I've been stealing is probably the third or fourth time that I'm gonna use this one. Patrick O'Shaughnessy's invest like the best, incredible podcast. If you haven't listened to it no free ads on this pod but we are giving him a free shout out. His ending question that he asked to his guests is what is the nicest thing someone has ever done for you? I know, it's a tough question, but I absolutely love it.

Chris Adams:

 43:36

Oh man. The nicest thing someone ever done for me.

Matt Zahab:

 43:40

You can't say you know being born or you can't say parents to cop up.

Chris Adams:

 43:50

Man the nicest like, to be real with you bro. Like, my wife decided that she wanted to spend the rest of her life with me is the nicest thing someone's ever done

Matt Zahab:

 44:01

Wow, brownie points.

Chris Adams:

 44:04

She's the best thing that ever happened to me and I want that to be known and like yeah, so her decided to be with me is definitely the nicest thing someone's ever done for me.

Matt Zahab:

 44:13

Good stuff, amazing. Chris this has been incredible, learned a lot, had a blast speaking with you. You are one of the most genuine people i've ever spoke with and I really appreciate you coming on and I hope you had a blast, I certainly did.

Chris Adams:

 44:27

Matt this was a lot of fun. Thank you for having me, man. And yeah, I'm gonna send you some Dreamr merch.

Matt Zahab:

 44:33

100%. Folks, when you see me in Toronto rockin Dreamr you will know it's from Chris and the team, incredible logo. Chris thanks again for coming on. Before we let you go, can you tell our guests where we can find you and Dreamr on socials and online?

Chris Adams:

 44:46

Absolutely. So our website is Dreamr.app. You can also check out the blog at dream universe.org and on social media is the same Dreamr.app or Dreamr_app on Twitter. And also check out our telegram channel is Dreamr_official, we're doing a lot of giveaways in there. Gave away 500 in $BTC a PS5 the other week. We're going to be doing that again but bigger so yeah come check us out and join the Dreamr community, the app is also available on iOS and Android.

Matt Zahab:

 45:22

Unreal, Chris. Thanks again, man. This was absolute treats and wishing the team All the best.

Chris Adams:

 45:26

Thank you, brother. Appreciate you.

Matt Zahab:

 45:28

Folks. This was the cryptonews podcast with Chris Adams, CEO and co founder of Dreamr, highly recommend checking them out. They have an app on Android and iOS. Check out all the socials, you can find them in the show notes as well as Chris's socials as well which I will post there. We are dropping episodes every Monday, Wednesday and Friday morning. If you'd like this one and I hope you did, please subscribe it would mean the world to us. We are going to be coming out with more amazing guests similar to Chris and we love you can't thank you enough for tuning in. And we will keep in touch. Hope you have a phenomenal rest of the day, morning, afternoon, evening, wherever you are. Whatever you were doing, appreciate you, love you and have a good one. See you folks.