{"id":32586,"date":"2020-04-20T18:10:00","date_gmt":"2020-04-20T18:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/fr.cryptonews.com\/?p=32586"},"modified":"2023-06-26T11:07:26","modified_gmt":"2023-06-26T11:07:26","slug":"is-this-1999-forum-message-from-a-young-satoshi-nakamoto-6209","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cryptonews.com\/fr\/news\/is-this-1999-forum-message-from-a-young-satoshi-nakamoto-6209\/","title":{"rendered":"Vient-on de d\u00e9couvrir un message de 1999 de Satoshi Nakamoto?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Les internautes ont-ils d&eacute;couvert le jeune <a href=\"https:\/\/cryptonews.com\/fr\/exclusives\/personnalite-crypto-satoshi-nakamoto-3779\/\">Satoshi Nakamoto<\/a> &agrave; l&rsquo;&eacute;poque o&ugrave; il d&eacute;veloppait les concepts qu&#8217;il immortalisera plus tard pour toujours dans le <a href=\"https:\/\/cryptonews.com\/fr\/exclusives\/le-livre-blanc-de-bitcoin-4334\/\">livre blanc de Bitcoin<\/a> (BTC)?<\/p><figure><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cimg.co\/w\/articles-attachments\/1\/5e9\/dac48e0687.jpg\" sizes=\"(min-width: 640px) 720px, 100vw\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cimg.co\/w\/articles-attachments\/1\/5e9\/dac48e0687.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cimg.co\/w\/articles-attachments\/2\/5e9\/dac48e0687.jpg 600w, https:\/\/cimg.co\/w\/articles-attachments\/3\/5e9\/dac48e0687.jpg 720w, https:\/\/cimg.co\/w\/articles-attachments\/4\/5e9\/dac48e0687.jpg 900w, https:\/\/cimg.co\/w\/articles-attachments\/0\/5e9\/dac48e0687.jpg 1216w\" alt=\"\" class=\"content-img\"><figcaption>Source: Adobe\/Mihail<\/figcaption><\/figure><p>Le livre blanc du BTC a &eacute;t&eacute; publi&eacute; en octobre 2008, mais les internautes semblent avoir r&eacute;cemment <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TuurDemeester\/status\/1251314135821885441\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">d&eacute;couvert<\/a> un article sur le forum crypto Cypherpunks datant du 19 septembre 1999. Dans ce message, un utilisateur anonyme discute de solutions de cryptographie qui ressemblent &eacute;trangement &agrave; celles qui ont plus tard servi de base au livre blanc de Bitcoin, presque une d&eacute;cennie avant la publication de ce document historique.<\/p><p>Le fil de discussion du forum (vous pouvez le <a href=\"https:\/\/marc.info\/?t=95280270200022&amp;r=1&amp;w=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">lire ici<\/a> dans son int&eacute;gralit&eacute;) traite du concept d'&#8221;ecash&#8221;, l&#8217;utilisateur signalant la n&eacute;cessit&eacute; d&#8217;utiliser un mat&eacute;riel &#8220;inviolable&#8221; car le fait de d&eacute;pendre d&rsquo;une monnaie ou d&#8217;une base de donn&eacute;es qui g&egrave;re la question de la double-d&eacute;pense signifie que votre &#8220;argent&#8221; peut devenir sans valeur du jour au lendemain si quelqu&#8217;un (disons un gouvernement) d&eacute;cide d&#8217;&eacute;teindre un ordinateur (celui qui d&eacute;tient la base de donn&eacute;es de ces doubles d&eacute;penses)&#8221;.<\/p><p><b>Lire aussi: <a href=\"https:\/\/cryptonews.com\/fr\/news\/cinq-moyens-de-dissimuler-votre-identite-quand-vous-tradez-d-6172\/\">Cinq moyens de dissimuler votre identit&eacute; quand vous tradez du Bitcoin<\/a>.<\/b><\/p><p>L&#8217;utilisateur propose ensuite de &#8220;rendre publique la base de donn&eacute;es sur les doubles d&eacute;penses&#8221;, et &eacute;crit<\/p><blockquote class=\"left\"><p>&#8220;Chaque fois que quelqu&#8217;un re&ccedil;oit une pi&egrave;ce, il en diffuse la valeur. La [base de donn&eacute;es] fonctionne en parall&egrave;le sur un grand nombre de serveurs et il est donc impossible de l&#8217;arr&ecirc;ter. Cela pourrait &ecirc;tre un syst&egrave;me de paiement tr&egrave;s solide et vaut la peine d&#8217;&ecirc;tre poursuivi&#8221;, affirme l&#8217;utilisateur anonyme.<\/p><\/blockquote><p>Et il y a m&ecirc;me un avertissement sur les efforts de sabotage potentiels &agrave; venir, <\/p><blockquote class=\"left\"><p>&#8220;Le plus grand danger est que la monnaie soit prise d&#8217;assaut et oblig&eacute;e de se comporter mal, par exemple en &eacute;mettant trop de pi&egrave;ces. Cela d&eacute;graderait l&#8217;argent et le rendrait sans valeur&#8221;.<\/p><\/blockquote><p>Cette d&eacute;couverte a fait faire des heures suppl&eacute;mentaires aux d&eacute;tectives d&#8217;Internet, d&#8217;autant plus que l&#8217;un des contributeurs du fil de discussion &eacute;tait Adam Back, un cryptographe britannique, l&#8217;inventeur du proto-Bitcoin proof-of-work Hascash, et le PDG de <b>Blockstream<\/b>.<\/p><p>L&#8217;auteur anonyme mentionne &agrave; la fois Hashcash et le concept de monnaie B du d&eacute;veloppeur Wei Dai. On pense que Nakamoto a envoy&eacute; un e-mail &agrave; propos de Bitcoin en ao&ucirc;t 2008, quelques mois avant la publication du livre blanc.<\/p><p>Tuur Demeester, fondateur du fonds alpha Bitcoin <b>Adamant Capital<\/b>, a indiqu&eacute; aux autres amateurs de cryptos l&rsquo;adresse d&#8217;un autre fil Twitter &agrave; partir de 2017, qui indique &#8220;Non seulement Back est cit&eacute; dans le livre blanc Bitcoin, mais il est &eacute;galement cr&eacute;dit&eacute; dans le livre blanc Tor de 2004&#8221;. Adam Back figure &eacute;galement sur la liste des conseillers d&#8217;Adamant Capital.<\/p><div class=\"tweet tweetContainer\"><oembed url=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TuurDemeester\/status\/844254219305713664\"><\/oembed><\/div><p>Le m&ecirc;me fil de discussion ajoute que &#8220;l&#8217;ancien d&eacute;veloppeur de Bitcoin Core Peter Todd s&#8217;est entretenu avec des personnes comme Hal Finney et Adam Back sur des listes de diffusion lorsqu&#8217;il avait environ 14 ans au sujet du probl&egrave;me des doubles d&eacute;penses&#8221;.<\/p><p>Finney, qui est mort en 2014, a &eacute;t&eacute; identifi&eacute; comme un possible &eacute;crivain fant&ocirc;me de Nakamoto par Newsweek et le New Yorker. <\/p><p><b>Lire aussi: <a href=\"https:\/\/cryptonews.com\/fr\/exclusives\/ouvrez-un-compte-premium-sur-coinhouse-et-achetez-vos-premie-5608\/\">Ouvrez un compte Premium sur Coinhouse et achetez vos premiers bitcoins<\/a>.<\/b><\/p><p>Les pr&eacute;c&eacute;dents travaux de d&eacute;tectives 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